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post Mar 13 2003, 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by raggster:
if you actually do something worthwhile, then it's only fair to everyone who wants to see change (and from the looks of the replies, mukhang marami nga) that you share it in your online forums. problema kasi, banat lang nang banat.

What you see is what you get. As far as you know, this -- running a website that outlines our dysfunction and proposes a solution framework given the nature of the problem I attempt to highlight -- is what I do best. So that's what I am doing, doing what I do best (outside of my day-to-day personal commitments).

What I do beyond what you see here today is irrelevant to the discussion as I have only my leisure time to commit to the cause of duty to my ethnic background.

Originally posted by raggster:
you seem to have this false impression that i'm out to glorify personal sacrifice, blah blah blah, but yet i just asked one simple question: what are you doing about the situation? and until now, you haven't answered it one bit.

Why do I need to answer it when it is irrelevant to the topic of this thread?

The topic of this thread is Pinoy cultural dysfunction and not benign0's personal life.

Originally posted by raggster:
all you've done is go defensive,

That's because I'm here to defend my thesis and not to defend what I do in my personal time.

If I had the intention of discussing "what I do", then I would have included it in my website and opened a thread to discuss me.

Originally posted by raggster:
claim that i'm advocating great personal sacrifices out of individuals (i'm not),

Very well. I shall accept and take your word for it that you do not "advocate great personal sacrifices out of individuals.

Apologies for presuming otherwise.

Originally posted by raggster:
tell me that i don't know anything (which is funny, ebcause that's the whole reason why i wa asking) and then attack my personality. yeah, that really reflects greatly on your abilities to effect change. (IMG:http://atenista.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Doesn't maintaining a website such as mine constitute an effort to "effect change" (i.e. by creating the awareness of the issues -- the need for change).

People are not going to change unless they understand why they need to change, you know.

A drunkard won't sober up until he finally accepts that he is indeed a drunkard.

Originally posted by raggster:
hell, i never even denied that what you're saying is true. heck, for the most part, i actually agree with you.

Thank you.

Originally posted by raggster:
but the point is this: beyond the intellectualizing, beyond the rhetoric, what can be done on the practical level?

Here is what I propose for now (the concept is undergoing systemic development.

Originally posted by raggster:
you're right. i can't stop you from b!tching like there's no tomorrow. but i can remind you that there are more effective ways of advocating change. like setting a good example.

Please enlighten us.

How does one "set a good example"?

By not giving bribes, for example?
By being a "disciplined" driver?
By paying the "right" taxes?

Puh-lease. That kind of sloganeering has been going on for the last 50 years. Where are the results?

You can't expect a drunken bum to suddenly become a model citizen by showing him pictures of men in suits on their way to work.

Originally posted by raggster:
you can downplay me all you want, call me cute little names and use all of your smart, pseudo-intellectual catch-phrases. you can even claim that i'm being self-righteous.

It would help if you stick to discussing the issues rather than speculate about the person(s) behind benign0.

Originally posted by raggster:
maybe i am.

There you go.

Originally posted by raggster:
does that matter in the greater scheme of things?

Works both ways dude.

Does what I do beyond what you see here matter in the greater scheme of things?

Originally posted by raggster:
ignore calls for practical action just because you think the person saying it sounds too "self-righteous?" who's attacking the messenger now?

What was your message anyway?

I can't claim to attack any messenger if no message has been presented yet.

I've already presented mine. Yet you choose to speculate on me. Therefore, it follows, it is you who is the messenger attacker around here.

Don't take thing personally dude. I'm simply following your logic.

Originally posted by raggster:
you want to show these people how to "get real?" start doing it yourself.

You will just have to take my word for it that I do.

Meanwhile, my "getrealist" message remains as presented here. You either attack that message or continue speculating on what I do.

All up to you, dude. You set the tone of this discussion.

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benign0   An honest evaluation of Filipino/Philippine culture.   Dec 31 2002, 03:42 PM
jmal   Galing! Binatukan yata ako ng...katotohanan?   Dec 31 2002, 09:38 PM
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mac_bolan00   wrong. there should be more people like me and les...   Jan 6 2003, 04:14 PM
benign0   In reality there are very few like myself. There ...   Jan 6 2003, 05:32 PM
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raggster   if you actually do something worthwhile, then it's...   Mar 13 2003, 07:14 PM
benign0   What you see is what you get. As far as you know,...   Mar 13 2003, 10:51 PM
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bbarra   Here's today's (3/13/03) article about RP in the N...   Mar 14 2003, 07:39 AM
benign0   Why? Are you insinuating that Mr. raggster is i...   Mar 14 2003, 02:32 PM
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bbarra   Benign0, .."last bastion of affordable leisure..?...   Mar 15 2003, 06:51 AM
raggster   why, oh why do i get more brain fart? (by the way...   Mar 15 2003, 07:06 AM
bbarra   Benign0, further more...while your criticisms are ...   Mar 15 2003, 12:29 PM
benign0   I agree with you. Apologies for the misunderstand...   Mar 15 2003, 07:06 PM
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benign0   oops. [ March 18, 2003: Message edited by: benign...   Mar 18 2003, 04:31 PM
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mac_bolan00   oh rag, incorrigible or not, it won't matter to m...   Mar 18 2003, 05:17 PM
raggster   no matter. as it stands, his website contains qu...   Mar 19 2003, 04:54 AM
benign0   Amen to that. ~~~ And is there anything about ...   Mar 19 2003, 02:30 PM
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benign0   That's what I'm working on. I'm still at the top ...   Mar 19 2003, 06:18 PM
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